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March 2009  
 


Hello, P-38 Fans,

We've been a bit overwhelmed with the amount of new information coming our way this month.

If you haven't been checking in with our blog, you should do that because we've been adding info there (some of which is time sensitive). You can find the blog here.

A reminder that links which take you away from the P-38 website will, instead, open a new window for you. If you click on a photo to enlarge it or click on a link that takes you to another page within our website, just click our browser's "back" button to return here.

Now, on with this month's news...

Kelly K

In This Edition

Look ma, no engines!

Sierra Wave P-38 PictureDid you know that P-38 pilot Bob Symons flew around the Owens Valley for over an hour with both props feathered? Briefly, on March 5, 1950, Bob was flying his P‑38 and took advantage of a little understood weather phenomenon to try something new. He soared his P‑38 with both engines dead and propellers feathered for more than an hour between 13,000 feet and 31,000 feet. Maximum climb rate was 3000 feet per minute. The ground winds were strong and blew the roof off a hangar at Bishop Airport. It was on this flight that he took the famous picture (above left). Read more here.

P-38 Guts

P-38Pat Carry sent us this link of a P-38 at Chino, with her panels off. Worth a look, if you're curious about what's under those panels. We believe this is the Vintage Fighters P-38, owned by Jack Croul, and housed at Chino.

about that p‑38 training...

For those of you who tried to view the P‑38 Flight Instruction video mentioned in the February 2009 newsletter and were disappointed to see that it had been removed from YouTube, we found a clip from that video here (for as long as it remains there!). If you'd like your own copy of it, you can get it here.

new on the website

We've added a new photo on the "You Might Just Love the P-38" page of our website. It's at the (right) top of the page, and it shows how the guys figured out more than one way to use a P‑38!

Thanks to P-38 Association member, Jim Corbitt, for the great photo.

Legends Over Madera

Their website is advertising that "There will be a tremendous war bird representation with aircraft such as the P-38 Lightning." We'll keep you posted if we hear more on this. Madera is about 30 minutes outside of Fresno, CA. (May 29-31, Madera Airport)

P-38 Refueled in Mid Air?

During WWII the U.S. Army Air Forces looked at a possible refueling method for smaller fighter aircraft. A contractor, All American Aviation, equipped and tested a specially modified P‑38 Lightning. In the test, the P‑38 was to catch a cable, securing it into a device mounted on the forward fuselage. The fighter would then descend to the tank which was to lodge into the securing device while the cable broke away. A nitrogen bottle fired to force the fuel into the fighter before ejector springs released the tank. The tests proved highly unsuccessful, and in March 1945, the Army Air Forces cancelled the method as unsound. (From the Air Mobility Command website.)

this and that

  1. If you enjoy RC P-38s, here's an interesting discussion about which kit is the best and why.
  2. Here's a student looking to buy a P‑38 for he and his Dad to restore. Good luck with that. Still, it's nice to hear that interest in our favorite plane is passed on through the generations.
  3. Here are some highly detailed
    P‑38 line drawings.

 

What's with the Nose?

Cliff Lawson sent us these photos of an unusual P-38 with a "bubble" nose.

Bubble P-38 1 Bubble P-38 2
Click Photo to Enlarge

We published the whole story of this unusual P‑38 in the July 2008 edition of our membership publication, "Lightning Strikes" (If you'd like a copy of that issue you can order one here.) As a hint, think aerial mapping.

P-38 with Tiny Tim RocketCliff also sent us this INCREDIBLE photo picked off a test film of a P‑38 suspended from a tower firing an 11.75" Tiny Tim rocket (You can click on the photo to enlarge it.)

new photos on the web

If you haven't had a chance to visit the 1st Fighter Group's website, take a few minutes to do it. They've got lots of great P-38 photos, as well as pilot and ground crew photos, P-38 bases, etc. It's worth a look-see.

Red Bull P-38Here are some nice shots of the Red Bull P‑38 in its new hangar. One you get there, be sure to click on the photo to see the enlarged picture. Incredibly beautiful.

Glacier Girl and Red BullWithout a doubt, a beauty of a photo. This one of the Red Bull P‑38 and Glacier Girl. Thanks to Pat Carry for letting us know about it, and about these photos of the Red Bull P‑38 arriving in Hamburg on her way home to Salzburg. Click on photo to see enlarged version.

SEP P-38

This photo of an old Saturday Evening Post was found online and found in an old, deserted home. Click to enlarge.

 

Lindbergh Article

Last month's newsletter included an article about the Charles Lindbergh P‑38 connection. Association member Jack Williams felt that article didn't nearly tell the whole story. He said (and I'm paraphrasing): Lindbergh’s findings were that low RPM at high manifold pressure, though hard on the engines, would yield maximum distance flown per unit of fuel, thus increasing the range of fighter planes beyond what others previously thought was possible. When Jack Williams and seven other pilots ran into radio problems and headwinds returning to Palawan from Borneo on a mission that took ten hours and twenty minutes, he believes Lindbergh saved his life (as well as the lives of many other pilots) with those findings.

Jack sent us this link to the Lindbergh Foundation for those who would like to check it out.




Happy Easter from the P-38 Assn

P-38 Hardstand

by John Stanaway

Hitting the Nylon from a P-38

One of the ceaseless arguments I have had with various folks about the P‑38 is the matter of taking to the parachute from the central P‑38 cockpit.  One WWII SBD Dauntless gunner veteran shook his head in resolute deference when I turned hoarse trying to convince him that I had interviewed more than one pilot who had bailed out successfully from a P‑38 cockpit.  The 20th Fighter Group records at least forty-two P‑38 pilots in the caterpillar club; guys who had successfully parachuted from altitudes of a few hundred feet to nearly 30,000. 

The general feeling was that the broad horizontal stabilizer behind the cockpit would strike the pilot on his way out and either break his legs or perhaps slice him in two.  These same people who hold that belief simply wave off the question of what happens to the evacuee of a more conventional fighter who must encounter either the rear fuselage or the horizontal stabilizer of his own type.  That peril was a real consideration for pilots abandoning the P‑40, P‑47 or P‑51 types (the P‑39 pilot had another worry when he had to lean forward to clear the automobile type door of the old Airacobra).

One 55th Fighter Group veteran confided to me that when the time came there was no problem psychologically leaving a doomed airplane.  In the caseBailing out of a P-38 of the P‑38, the pilot wanted to reduce speed to just above stalling and either nose up the fighter, which would tend to pitch the pilot over the horizontal stabilizer, or to nose it down, which tended to pitch him under the stabilizer.  The real danger was striking the mass balances which protruded above and below the elevator.  Mustang pilots faced the danger of bouncing off the rear fuselage and slamming into the horizontal stabilizer.  In any event, the noble Mustang dropped like a rock around the stalling point, so it was a devil to slow enough to get out.  Talk about a difficult airplane from which to bail out!

Bailing out of a P-38One of the 55th pilots who swore about the flaws of the P‑38 was General Ed Giller, and he maintained that the ’38 was more difficult to abandon in flight.  Some pilots claimed that if everything else failed there was always the option of turning the P‑38 on its back and simply falling out.  Giller said that nobody in the 55th even considered that route of escape.  Like everything else about the P‑38 in Europe, the subject of bailing out was a matter of controversy, but the truth is that it was not all that difficult to get out of a stricken Lightning. (Both illustrations are from the P-38 Flight Training video.

P-38 National Association News

DONATIONS

We thank all of those who have showed that extra measure of support for the P‑38 Association by sending in these generous donations during the past month:

Stan Jones

Dick Miller

Gloria Osberg

Seymour Prell

Ken Underwood

Glenn van de Sandt

LIVE P-38 DEMONSTRATION

If you missed the posting on our blog, check out the Planes of Fame website about the upcoming event (April 4). some of our members, including "Fox &Ox" (Jack olson and Thomas Oxford) and will be participating and they are scheduled to have a P‑38 in the air.

new board members elected

On March 17, we elected (or re-elected) our new slate of Directors and Officers. Ron Smith, who has served admirably well during the past three years, stepped down and Bob Alvis was elected as our new President. If you'd like to see the full slate, you can check them out here.

museum upgrade

If you haven't stopped by the Museum lately, you really should. The complete transformation that has taken place under the aegis of Howard Ramshorn is truly incredible. Howie and Lowell Stacy have organized, beautified and just generally improved in every aspect the totality of the Museum. We now have beautiful displays and a proper docents area and gift shop (thanks also to Bob Alvis). When our Honorary Chairman, Dick Willsie, and his wife Marilyn stopped by after a recent Board meeting, they were completely amazed at the improvements. Enough said. Come.

archie jackson exhibit moving right along

Bob Alvis just returned from yet another trip to the Planes of Fame in Valle, AZ, where he is continuing P-38 Exhibit at Planes of Famework on our special exhibit at their Museum. The exhibit will have two purposes, the main one of which is to honor one of our Life Members, the late Archie "Gil" Jackson, who was such a tremendous support to the P‑38 Association. The other purpose of the exhibit is to let visitors to the Museum know about our organization, so a part of the exhibit will be dedicated exclusively to that. The photo on the left shows the bare bones of the exhibit, which will be completed by the June Membership meeting and unveiled and dedicated at that event. Archie's family is also planning to attend the ceremony. (As usual, you can click on the photo to enlarge.)

GENERAL MEMBERSHIP MEETING UPDATE

We now have a page on our website dedicated to the upcoming General Membership Meeting in AZ this summer. This is where you can find all the latest agenda and information updates. It's shaping up to be a great time, with the dedication of the new P‑38 exhibit at the Planes of Fame Museum in Valle, the developing P-38 History Panel and possible P-38 flight (ride along) possibilities. Check it out here.

 

 
P-38 Association Product of the Month

Andrea Davide (Aviation Artist)
James G. Ihlenfeldt
U.W. Hopson
(Gift from his daughter, D'Lanie Blaze)
John A. Krueger
Dick Miller (WWII Pilot)
Mike Post
Jim Powell
Max Rogers (inadvertently omitted last month)
Robert Schowengerdt
(Gift from Harry Maney)
Ken Underwood
(His father, a P‑38 pilot with the 55FG,
was KIA)
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Go Green & Help the
P-38 Association
at the same Time

We can think of dozens of ways to use these bags.

Rosie the Riveter & P-38

As a BYOB at the market or a carryall for the park or the beach, the large canvas bag is perfect.

Or, if you're looking for one bag that will hold EVERYTHING in an organized, easy-to-find way, the zippered bag is what you need.

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